Children – The Real Criminals
30 October, 2006 at 8:49 pm | In Incompetence Exposed | 45 CommentsThere’s a problem in today’s society that is going to greatly affect our future. The younger generation is growing up with a rebellious nature, unruly, undisciplined behaviour, and a deep urge to perform acts of civil disobedience.
Meet little Johnny:

He’s a hardened criminal who deserves to spend the rest of his life rotting in jail.
Canada has done its best to prevent Johnny from stealing (ones and zeros, that is), with our favourite superhero: Captain Copyright. But their site is now down… deservedly so.
However, fortunately the Arizona Foundation for Legal Services & Education has the answer: http://lawforkids.org/
Taking a look at some of the “toons” on this wonderfully perspective website, we can see some classic works of art:

This guy thinks he’s not a car, but the cop knows better!
It’s comics like these, that make you want to have a helmet, eye protection and a permission slip…
Check them out and you’ll find cartoons about DUI, weapons, tagging, smoking, marijuana, shoplifitng, joyriding and fighting.

Now while these cartoons will totally get through to, like, children, I’ve taken the time, to get someone, to create my own, that might seem more appropriate…

From Pox over at Vektorr Studios
Yeah, that revoked license will teach him not to shoot cops!
Quite frankly – No…
If anyone is crazy enough to think that these mostly nonsensical cartoons will stop teenagers from committing crimes, then they are either seriously out of touch with normative progressive values of the younger generation, or work for government organisations. More probably both.
If you have a look at your typical teenager, they’ll look at these cartoons… and get the sudden urge to commit crime. You cannot attempt to educate children with lame cartoons.
The point, I feel, that needs to be made is that there is no need for this in our society. The government does not need to protect the children from the real world with this fearmongering (not to mention that some of these laws are absurd, mainly those involving revoked licenses). Most kids do some stupid things when they grow up, they do not all turn out to be criminals. They may end up as dole bludgers with a shoddy life… and move to Canada, but there’s nothing illegal about that (yet).
It’s this ultra-conservatism in this world that does not allow children to fully develop. We make these things seem taboo, instead of educating children about them, exposing them to it slowly.
We have to stop this idiocy and give parents some responsibility for their own children. It’s not up to busy government officials, to form committees and departments, to delegate tasks to people, to find other people, that will find people, who are willing to go and hire writers and artists, who will procrastinate over crappy little cartoons, which will make it into the unbeknownst corners of the internet, after responsibility was delegated to someone, to look for… you get the point.
This leads on to the paranoia that I have seen from authority (parents, schools, police alike), which creates this protectionist nature.
There are schools where I live, for example, that have banned loitering. Loitering not inside the school, but in the CBD, as many students travel home via the city. That’s right, standing around in a single spot in a public location is now illegal.
What’s more is that schools have alerted the presence of police officials to loiterers, tying up public resources, shifting attention towards people standing still with no purpose, and away from real criminals – yes, they do exist, and no, they are not teenagers who have nothing better to do than stand around…
To conclude, the solution is quite simple really. How about spending more money on the education system, improving that rather than creating cartoons that will have no positive influence on anybody, ever.
I’ll finish with a quote from Bill Maher:
There are 12 year old boys in this country who can’t even spell the name of the teacher they’re having sex with.
P.S FUCK YOUTUBE
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Children-the real criminals…………
(u MUST mean THE Parents True Criminals)
if parents weren’t so stupid, self centered, and actually could connect with thier children, not talking but CONNECTING with thier children for once…and makes sure thier young ones knows that now matters what thier loved AND CARED!!!! FOR
to many drunken, drugged up F@CK up
too many parents F@UCK!ng up the world so thier IS CHILDREN THAT BECOME CRIMINALS CAUSE OF the PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by M..B — 30 October, 2006 #
Children-the real criminals…………
(u MUST mean THE Parents True Criminals)
if parents weren’t so stupid, self centered, and actually could connect with thier children, not talking but CONNECTING with thier children for once…and makes sure thier young ones knows that now matters what thier loved AND CARED!!!! FOR
to many drunken, drugged up F@CK up, PARENTS!!
Too many parents F@UCK!ng up the world, so thier ARE CHILDREN THAT BECOME CRIMINALS CAUSE OF the PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by M..B — 30 October, 2006 #
while i agree with you M.B. on the point about parenting, you really do need to clean up your posts. You look like a complete moron, and your message will only be seen as equally moronic.
There’s too many places and not enough fingers to point towards all of them. Everyone is at fault. Politicians, Parents, Teachers, Institutions, and Rock Stars (well, nah… those poor starving artists, no one takes them seriously [or should]).
The solution has to start with the individual, plain and simple. One person will make a difference when everyone realizes they are that one person. It all starts with you. Make the decision to use contraceptives, make the responsible choice about children (don’t have them!). 80-90% of you probably shouldn’t be having children. Yes, I’m included. I have the foresight to realize this though.
Who’s to say what’s right for little 3 year old Johnny is right for 5 year old Jenny. It’s all touch and go. Raising a child is singularly the most important thing an average joe can do. The reality is most of us aren’t politicians or Mother Teresas, your impact is going to be bringing that child into the world the right way. Yes, there are lots of things to consider… and I understand no situation will ever be ideal, 100% of the time. But think about this, a lot of people before going out and buying a Digital Camera or something shop online for deals, research quality, and what-not before they go ahead and buy. Most people don’t do a half that kind of research before having children. They change their diets, listen to Mozart (maybe), and buy clothes, toys, and furniture for the next 3 years if they can.
Try reading some books on the subject. How important is it to provide the right environment and set the right examples behaviorally… probably more than most people imagine.
Ok, this topic is way too broad and controversial to cover in a “thread” like this. So, time to digress.
Comment by .. — 31 October, 2006 #
Personally I think that a majority of the problem (that I see anyway) is that too many parents are using watered down children shows to raise their children. These cartoons only solidify the case that pussifying your children and not taking a hand in raising your children only makes them rebel and turn them into shitty kids
Comment by stumpdawg — 31 October, 2006 #
Have you seen David Cameron’s latest Big Brother initiative? He wants to change the law in the UK so that children will have to earn rights that are now acknowledged for all adults; they will earn these rights through national service.
That’s right; unless they step up and enlist in something like a Tory version of the Hitler Youth, their fundamental rights as citizens will be denied them once they attain the age of majority. Charming.
Comment by raincoaster — 31 October, 2006 #
i think people need to relax, like chill the fuck out. really.
there are so many things to blame for a messy society, but you can’t really go tackle each problem all at once. is it the media? the illegal drugs? or is it the prescribed drugs that kids pop like candy? i mean, half the parents that i’ve met act like fucking kids themselves… not like i’m super experienced with life or anything, i’m only 17.
Comment by happyhashi — 31 October, 2006 #
Y’know we read in the paper and we hear on the air
Of killing and stealing and crime everywhere
And we sigh and we say as we notice the trend
This young generation, where will it end
But can we be sure that it’s their fault alone
I mean that maybe a part of it isn’t our own
Are we less guilty who place in their way
Too many things that lead them astray
Like too much money
Too much idle time
Too many movies of passion and crime
Too many books that are not even fit to be read
Too much evil in what they hear said
and too many children encouraged to roam
By too many parents who won’t even stay home
Well! Kids don’t make the movies
and they don’t write the books
They don’t paint gay pictures of gangsters and crooks
They don’t make the liquor and they don’t run the bars
They don’t make the laws and they don’t buy the cars
They don’t make the junk that addles the brain
That’s all done by older folk, greedy for gain
Delinquent teenagers? How we condemn
The sins of a nation and blame it on them
But the laws that are blameless the Savior makes known
Now you tell me who’s here among us to cast the first stone
In so many cases it’s sad but it’s true
The title DELINQUENT Fits older folk too
So don’t blame it on the children!
Comment by Madyr Fakir — 31 October, 2006 #
Bill Maher is an asshole, and that is a gruesome (but maybe true, sadly) thing to say. Ever since he dressed up as dead Steve Irwin for Halloween, I’ve lost complete respect for him and his opinions. Children, however, are so unruly nowdays. I agree with you.
Comment by shelbycockrell — 31 October, 2006 #
i love you
Comment by monkey — 31 October, 2006 #
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This person has stloen credit card and charged to lindenlab.com
He had a fight with someone and said he would get her back…
the next day her myspace account was deleted and then 3 charged were made to her moms credit card.
since I pay the bills in the family and I can’t go ring this punks neck in person. I am going to prosecute to the full extent of the law.
we willbe tracing all the url’s and isp’s to trace when and how this transaction was made.
It all started with myspace and I would appreciate any help I can recieve from you.
Comment by Randy — 31 October, 2006 #
You are sick!
Children are not criminal!
How dare you?
You must be one of them liberal criminals yourself!
You perv!
Shelley Goodman
Comment by scottyq — 31 October, 2006 #
If you could redesign news media how would you do it?
Comment by po1ly — 31 October, 2006 #
Geez, people don’t read do they? If you guys read the whole article, then you’ll understand Junaman’s point. Conservatives play the blame game instead of trying to get at the root of the problem. I remember one sermon I heard once, “Any one of these boys up here could go to jail,” the man said that day. I don’t remember much else, I just thought that was harsh. I didn’t see the point really. He was saying how man have an evil nature or something like that. All he spewed was criticism. What about ways to solve the problem, as in trying to fix it? I pity conservatives for living in their delusional microcosms- for living in that cave-in the dark since childhood, chained to the wall, never seeing the light (see Plato’s Allegory of the cave on wikipedia, from Plato’s Republic).
Comment by light — 31 October, 2006 #
shelly goodman raped my dughter and made sexule advensis on my dog.
Comment by steveof — 31 October, 2006 #
I fully agree with the author on this. They’re going about it the wrong way. Cute cartoons and GI Joe style “public service messages” just don’t reach kids who’ve learned how not to drool on themselves. I remember watching GI Joe to see what cool new weapon they’d roll up with next, and mocking the PSA at the end.
If you want to reach kids do what they did with my class in grade school. When they’re in first or second, or maybe even third grade, take them to a police station. Then you line them up against a wall and tell them that they’re about to see what a criminal goes through. Then you lightly handcuff them all with the plastic zip ties since metal ones wouldn’t work. You march them inside through the intake door, take pictures and fingerprints, give them a kid-friendly version of a pat-down, and put them all in cells in small groups. (You can even have a few off-duty cops come in dressed grungy and play criminals in the cells just for added fear factor)
Then once they’re all “locked up”, you explain to them that this is how life is for a criminal. You show them that its unpleasant, dirty, dehumanizing, and undignified.
Then have a cop talk to them about how they do their job and that their purpose as police is to make sure everyone is safe and to help where they can, but that if they have to they’ll bring people to jail too. Let them see that a cop is a resource and an aid first and an enforcer second.
Then you do the important part! You take them back to school and DISCUSS what they just experienced. Kids can’t process what they don’t understand, and it takes discussion amongst each other for such big concepts to make sense.
And yes, sometimes you do have that exceptionally sensitive kid who takes such an experience badly and starts crying. That’s when you take him/her outside, explain that it was a game but now the game is over, and that you’re sorry you scared them so much.
But most of all it takes parents taking part to make the real difference. My parents laid down the line with me clearly and made it understood what was expected and what the consequences were if I didn’t do what I was supposed to. I was also told that anything that happens inside the TV tube is make-believe, even the news programs, unless it was on PBS. And even then my dad told me to check with him as to whether what was on PBS was real. So now I’m 34, play games like Postal 2 and Black, but never have had any desire to break the law in reality.
Oh yeah, and if you’re one of those parents who chases after their kids with Lysol wipes everywhere they go, STOP IT! That is my biggest pet peeve. Kids NEED exposures to germs and bacteria to develop any resistance to them.
Comment by Phydeux — 31 October, 2006 #
This is why I think we should bring back child laybor. They could help pay the darn rent.
Comment by wagi — 31 October, 2006 #
I’m not sure how I got here, but this conversation is nuts!
Comment by don johnson — 31 October, 2006 #
If you have a look at your typical teenager, they’ll look at these cartoons… and get the sudden urge to commit crime.
I beg to differ, being a typical teenager. Parents need to step up and be parents. Simple as that. I’m all for making people take a test before they’re allowed to procreate.
Comment by sarahmadisoncaldwell — 31 October, 2006 #
I agree with sarahmadisoncaldwell. I’m also a typical teenager. I do think the cartoons there are stupid and idiotic, but I’m not going to go off and smoke pot or something because of them. I think that parents need to step up to the plate too.
P.S. YOUTUBE ROCKS!~!!!!!
Comment by Chloe — 31 October, 2006 #
Wow, I’m really quite amazed at all this. I thought this was one of my more timid, easily understandable articles…
Guess I was wrong… Some people should really take the time to read things before they comment blindly on the title…
You do realise that it was SARCASTIC?
I was talking about the overly bureaucratic and protectionist nature that ultra-conservatives take with regards to thinking that all children are criminals… and hence making these stupid cartoons that nobody will ever pay attention to.
Thats sorta one of my major points in this article.
If you think so then you really need to have a look at this: http://www.newscloud.com/read/75528
They sold out, end of story…
Comment by junaman — 31 October, 2006 #
great…
Comment by iKnowHOW — 31 October, 2006 #
Good post, very well put. We definately need to stop expecting the gov’t to keep our kids safe, or our schools to raise them. There needs to be more parenting going on. I would personally like to see gov’t help parents help their kids rather than spend money on a bunch of lame cartoons.
Comment by hazel8500 — 31 October, 2006 #
Children are naturally innocent. It’s their upbringing that makes them who they are when they grow up. So I think it’s not just the fault of the parents.
There are some things in this world we don’t have control of. If kids want to act that way, it’s probably because they grew up to learn it’s OKAY to do it.
And about the YouTube-Sucks stuff… They ARE putting more and more crap in that site. Take lonelygirl15, for example.
Comment by Elaine — 31 October, 2006 #
And taking more and more good stuff off..
Comment by junaman — 31 October, 2006 #
Amen. It’ll shoot them in the foot, eventually, one hopes. I always suspected that Google would force all commercial tv vids on YouTube over to Google vid (where contracts are in place and they are making money for them) or off the site entirely. It’s just happening a lot faster than I thought it would.
Some of the copyright associations are nuts; the periodical writer’s association I was thinking of joining barred even recitation of memorized poetry as “copyright infringement.” Dear god.
And getting back to your original point, have you seen the kids’ comics from the Department of Homeland Security? Hilarious and sad at the same time.
Comment by raincoaster — 31 October, 2006 #
I found the subject interesting. I think this is something all of us need to be concerned with. In case anyone wants they can check out a rather serious article I have written on this at:
http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/aggression-in-children-can-lead-to-tragedy/
I think children come first. Before ANYTHING. They are our life. Our world.
Comment by nitawriter — 31 October, 2006 #
I agree with you on the point that education and proper parental guidance is the solution to all problems. A child today is exposed to all sources of information. He or she themselves can judge what is right or wrong for them. A child if wishes to know about human anatomy have a wide range of options on internet, from encyclopedia to porno sites. It is for parents to look after what source the child uses. Also they should be open to answer all his questions. Turning a deaf ear to his curiosities won’t solve the problem. He will find out anyway may be from a wrong source.
A child imitates what ever his elders do. His character builds up according to the company he keeps, the society the lives in. As for the cartoons, I don’t think there is anything stupid in using cartoons to convey a message. one look at the cartoon strip and u know what the cartoonist wish to tell. Message is best conveyed when everyone who goes through it understands it.
Comment by byline29 — 31 October, 2006 #
How dense could people get? Jeez, some people really need to lighten up. haha
Comment by benj — 31 October, 2006 #
I know adults who felt humiliated and hurt because nuns would rap them on the hand with a ruler. That is nothing compared to what kids have to go through today.
Do you know that in Pinellas County Florida, teens are shackled for misdemeaners in school, taken through the schools in front of their classmates, arrested and shackled when taken before a judge? Is this happening in your community?
I think kids should have some rights.
I realize that the police have to deal with some problem kids, but this shouldn’t happen to a teen whose body needs to move instead of sit all day, who no longer gets recess, and who nervously raps the desk with a pencil.
This is happening.
Comment by healthyself — 31 October, 2006 #
I think that that is completely and utterly ridiculous. Typical American solution to a problem…
I fully agree with you.
Comment by junaman — 31 October, 2006 #
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I was just watching the story they had on Winnipeg news, how the average age of criminals in Winnipeg is becoming younger & younger.
12,13,14 & 15 year olds have been involved in savage beatings and attempted murders.
“P.S FUCK YOUTUBE”
I agree. They took off a sideshow I put together of a bike trip I took.
Comment by Ryan — 31 October, 2006 #
people keep saying that children are disrespectful and unruly. they say how terrible they are, how out of control they are. now tell me this, when someone is forever grouping you together in negative terms what is your motivation to show them you are different? If you bad mouth them all the time what do you expect to get but rebellion? these are children not secure in their mental and emotional selves. they’re still growing, trying to find who they are while being bombarded with negative labels. A person I know said she didn’t like how young people treated her with kid gloves. I asked her if kids ever do anything right. they’re either bad or treat you like you’re old and give too much respect and thought to how they word things. Do they do anything right for anyone at all? If so, someone should start a campaign to show the world that they support children instead of grouping them together as criminal idiots.
personally I didn’t see the sarcasm in your post. I’ll have to read it again. I’m pleased to see that you pointed out that you think these comics are useless and that all kids are not bad. I’m happy I read on and read the comments or I really would have left a not so nice comment about close minded negative thinking.
Austin
Comment by Austin of Sundrip Journals — 31 October, 2006 #
Kids are wonderful people. Adults who influence kids with bad stuff must have forgotten how it was to be younger in the past or was never a kid at all.
Comment by Honey — 1 November, 2006 #
Oversimplified solutions never fail to amaze me. Nor amuse me.
Comment by naturalhigh — 1 November, 2006 #
None of these cartoons make me want to run out and do a crime, that I wouldn’t have done before seeing them.
The real issue here is with the laws you mentioned like no loitering at school, is it will create a generation who doesn’t mind if the government, or other institutions micromanage their life. It will create a police state, and the sad thing is, most people don’t realize what’s going on.
Joshua Davis, Age 15
Comment by Joshua Davis — 1 November, 2006 #
Kids have a rebelious nature because they are rarly treated like people. They spend most of their time being hearded in a prizon that people call schools and being told what to think and what to do all of the time. They rarely have a chance for any free thought or actions and the grow up being rebelious toward athority figures. Truthfuly this is pretty normal of a populace that is being repressed by its government. Just look at all of the civil unrest going on in several undeveloped foren countries that have strict and overbearing governments. The system of raising children brings those kids up to be rebelious and question everything. It is definatly a good thing. There is nothing worse than being a sheep. Too bad a lot of them get so fustrated that they start breaking laws and become violent. As long as they resist being manipulated by other people and they are non violent, I would congradulate them on their free thinking.
Comment by Adam — 1 November, 2006 #
Can I say I find this hilarious. But you can’t blame the children as a whole for being rebellious. By not disciplining your children and letting it be complete anarchy in your home,it gives them the “invitation” to go and act out,and become the new criminals.
It’s definitely true,no cartoon will stop crime from being committed.
nice blog..
elyse
Comment by lark89 — 1 November, 2006 #
Crime does pay.
signed D.B. Cooper
Location Cayman Islands.
Comment by dhb547 — 1 November, 2006 #
Being rebellious is part of being a kid. I was, my folks were, there’s were too. That is normal. Its also what helps society grow with the times. If it weren’t for rebels in the world, we’d still think we were living on a flat earth and that the cosmos revolve around the earth, and not the other way around. We never would have built planes or trains or rockets into space had we all just been dutiful to the previous generations belief systems.
I agree with Honey, Kids are wonderful. Seems to me in many cases, its the adults who’ve lost their grip.
Comment by hazel8500 — 1 November, 2006 #
@hazel8500
Hear, hear… I completely agree
My post was about saying how children ARE NOT criminals, and that ultra-conservatives fearmonger with their protectionism instead of education…
Sounds like you’ve been watching one of those “investigative” current affairs programs (in America I think it’s called Fox News). Well it really depends what crimes the children are committing to lower the average… and one or two extreme cases is quite irrelevant.
I mean if it is considered a crime (for the purposes of these statistics) to be caught drinking, then quite frankly average crime age would go down, because more things are illegal for minors, than adults.
This is a point I forgot to make for my Gun Control Article to all those believe who were listing how gun crimes went down when guns were legalised.
That’s quite obvious considering it is now legal to own guns, whereas prior to this all form of possession of a firearm was considered a crime…
Comment by junaman — 1 November, 2006 #
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“By not disciplining your children and letting it be complete anarchy in your home,it gives them the “invitation” to go and act out,and become the new criminals.”
Discipline, which is in the hand of the parents, is the key to most of this. Kids are innocent and do what they have to do to get what they want. It first starts with the parents stating their authority to their kids. Kids nowadays have very little to no respect for their parents. For example, I was at a electronics store where a parent wanted to know about ipods and such. Her son who was to recieve the gift was calling her names and telling her to shut up. This kid had no respect for his mom. He had to be around 11 yrs. Now this isn’t even a big deal but imagine when she tries to tell him about crimes and things such as smoking, drinking and drugs. He’s not going to listen. This wasn’t the only kid who was like that. The other ones weren’t so extreme but would end in such a manner. People overlook the importance of discipline. Kids are innocent and , even though they don’t know what they are doing some of the time, they do know some of the consequences. The basic idea of discipline is to give the kids a choice in their decision making. To either be happy doing the things that they are allowed or to do what they want and be punished for what they are not supposed to do. Telling your kids that what they did is wrong and that you are very mad doesn’t count. Just because you are mad, why should they care? What’s going to happen to them is the question in mind and if nothing is the answer then that is the invitation they need to go out and be criminals.
The government can help by educating the parents on ways of stating the authority. Too much discipline can be just as bad as not enough. There is a thin line between the two and everyone has to be able to see it.
Comminication would be the key to reducing all these situations. Before I go to the store and use my bank card, I always call them and see if I have enough money to buy the item. Parents would need to grant kids permission on things that would not be good. With kids always talking to their parents on what they are going to do and what they did, parents will gain control of their kids.
Comment by Dadidiesel — 22 November, 2006 #
I think that people from age 9 and up have the poteintal of becoming real criminals and I’m not talking about pettie things like stealing and destruction of proterty no I’m talking about real criminals like murders and killers (two different thigs). If u people would stop fouce on things that have nothing to do with stoping people before committing a crime then shut up please. Even if you were to stop some people from committing crims you would not be able to stop them all and what about the new generation comming, we are being taught how and how not to commit a crime. The truth is as much as you people would like to save the world you have to come to the conclusion that you can’t, you really just can’t.
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